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Offline David HK

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Re: Electric Fence Zapper
« Reply #195 on: January 31, 2014, 05:39:22 pm »
Owing to my lack of knowledge and training, maybe Oztules could satisfy my curiosity on the following:-

The PCB has a total of 14 Triacs divided into two banks of seven each with its own diac. The bank 'on-line' is determined by a jumper. The logic being that if one set of Triacs fails then another set is ready to go. Would it work?


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Re: Electric Fence Zapper
« Reply #196 on: January 31, 2014, 09:58:36 pm »
I think it would depend somewhat on the failure mode of the original bank of SCRs.

If they failed short circuit, then no - because they'll just short out the "spare" bank too.
If they failed open circuit, then WHY? Whatever made them fail MAY have taken out the "spare" bank too.

It's a long time since I've worked with those devices, but I believe you can "turn them on" with a rapid DV/DT, which COULD see the second bank triggering simply BECAUSE the first bank triggered.

Finally, if you're going to put 14 on the board, why not just stack 'em permanently? Wouldn't that make it just about indestructable??

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Re: Electric Fence Zapper
« Reply #197 on: February 01, 2014, 02:51:47 am »
Your're quite right on all accounts Ross, my curiosity is satisfied.

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Re: Electric Fence Zapper
« Reply #198 on: February 03, 2014, 10:41:04 am »
Hello.My work.Ty

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Re: Electric Fence Zapper
« Reply #199 on: February 07, 2014, 12:11:10 pm »
Hello.I did hv coil and make 5kV. little ,small.thank you.Out as yours?thank

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Re: Electric Fence Zapper
« Reply #200 on: February 20, 2014, 01:30:58 am »
Hello.HV coil yours out what voltage?ty(scuze)

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Re: Electric Fence Zapper
« Reply #201 on: February 20, 2014, 02:52:22 pm »
Using modified microwave transformers, and 50uf@600v trigger voltage... about 14000v unloaded is the best I have done
normally don't try for that much.

Loaded for 500 ohm load, about 8000v
9 turns of 2 in hand 1.8mm primary, 260 turns 1mm wire secondary.

Every one I make is different though.


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Re: Electric Fence Zapper
« Reply #202 on: February 23, 2014, 01:22:17 am »
Thank you.

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Re: Electric Fence Zapper
« Reply #203 on: February 25, 2014, 12:13:29 am »
Thank you.
Hello. Two such coils are connected? Parallel? Ty

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Re: Electric Fence Zapper
« Reply #204 on: February 26, 2014, 03:05:14 am »
In parallel. This lowers the resistance. The lower the primary resistance the higher the out voltage can be.

Lower resistance will allow faster capacitor discharge, faster changing field, more voltage generated in the output

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Re: Electric Fence Zapper
« Reply #205 on: February 26, 2014, 10:21:34 am »
Ok....Thank you ''oztules" :)

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Re: Electric Fence Zapper
« Reply #206 on: March 02, 2014, 08:38:18 am »
Hello!We found a problem transformer winding mayor HV.Please tell me which of the three modes of winding drawn in the picture below correct? Picture 3(bifilar parallel-counter wound) I understood that mod.It's right?

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Re: Electric Fence Zapper
« Reply #207 on: March 03, 2014, 03:07:43 am »
I use bifilar parallel/



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Re: Electric Fence Zapper
« Reply #208 on: March 03, 2014, 10:19:30 am »
Thank you ''oztules"

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Re: Electric Fence Zapper
« Reply #209 on: March 18, 2014, 04:40:14 pm »
I have tried  to use microwave transformer the laziest way-just removed secondary winding and wound 9  turns.Do not know the number of turns of the primary winding,but loaded with 400 ohm it gives aprox 6000V.
I know it is unreliable,but is working for a week.